Inflectra Customer Forums: Reinstate customizing the sort order of Test Folders and Test Cases (Thread) I would like Inflectra to reinstate the functionality in SpiraTeam for customizing the sort order of Test Folders and Test Cases. Our government agency has used on-premise SpiraTeam since 2009. We were planning to upgrade from SpiraTeam v4.2 to v5.3, but that was before we upgraded our TEST environment to v5.3 and saw what the new folder system did to our Test Folders and Test Cases (and Test Sets, Documents, and Tasks). For years we have painstakingly arranged thousands of Test Cases and Test Folders in the sort order and hierarchy that suits our work practices and helps optimize productivity. The behavior introduced in SpiraTeam v5 destroys the logical order of our artifacts, sorts them alphanumerically by Name, and prohibits us from specifying the sort order unless we do so by using a naming convention for the artifacts. To preserve our customized sort order, we would have to rename thousands of artifacts by using a naming convention that would exploit the alphanumerical sorting. Anyone who has tried to do this in Windows Explorer knows that the naming process becomes cumbersome as you continue to add, move, and delete folders and files. I read the Inflectra article Why Did We Change How Folders Work?, and the article states that The new folders...are in the same place in the folder tree. I disagree. In the v5 folder system, our folders are no longer in the places we put them in the tree for the last eight years; their positions have changed and there is now a Root folder that never previously existed in our tree. Likewise, the Test Cases in v5.3 are not in the positions we placed them for the last eight years. I recognise the value in many of the changes from v4.2 to v5, but the changes didnt need to be made at the expense of Users being able to customize the sort order of Test Folders and Test Cases. It is interesting that the Inflectra article also says that the folders In a lot of ways now behave just like Windows Explorer (the v4.2 Help says The structure is very similar to the folder structure in Microsoft Windows Explorer). It is interesting because Microsoft displeased many Users by removing the functionality that enabled Users to manually arrange folders and files in Windows Explorer. Microsoft removed the options to disable Auto Arrange, Align to grid and Auto Sort in Windows Explorer, and that resulted in Users complaining about the removals, petitioning for their reinstatement, and creating a registry hack to reinstate the options. Such changes displease customers because of the effect on customers customizations. A tenet of software upgrades is that they should not delete customers customizations that the software previously allowed, but this is what SpiraTeam v5 does. I liken the effect of the v5 folder system on our artifacts to someone else rearranging the Transitions in customised Workflows to occur in alphanumeric order by Name instead of the logical order that the User created. An upgrade that deletes customers customisations is likely to result in disenchanted customers. Our agency is fortunate in that we have the on-premise SpiraTeam so we can test before we upgrade. From what Ive read in the SpiraTeam Support Forums, Users of the Cloud version of SpiraTeam have had their customized sort order of Test Folders and Test Cases undone without knowing that it would happen. At least our agency can choose to remain on v4.2 and keep eight years of customizations. I am grateful to Inflectra for this forum and their willingness to consider feedback from customers. Maybe other customers will add their comments to this thread. Maybe we can convince Inflectra to reinstate the functionality in SpiraTeam for customizing the sort order of Test Folders and Test Cases. Dan en-US(C) Copyright 2006-2024 Inflectra Corporation.support@inflectra.com/Computers/Software/Project_Management//Computers/Software/Quality_Assurance/KronoDesksupport@inflectra.comhttp://www.inflectra.com/kronodesk/forums/threads120/Support/Forum/spirateam/issues-questions/1778.aspxthreadId=1778Daniel G Martin (Daniel.Martin@dsiti.qld.gov.au)sortfolderspositionorderReinstate customizing the sort order of Test Folders and Test Cases I would like Inflectra to reinstate the functionality in SpiraTeam for customizing the sort order of Test Folders and Test Cases. Our government agency has used on-premise SpiraTeam since 2009. We were planning to upgrade from SpiraTeam v4.2 to v5.3, but that was before we upgraded our TEST environment to v5.3 and saw what the new folder system did to our Test Folders and Test Cases (and Test Sets, Documents, and Tasks). For years we have painstakingly arranged thousands of Test Cases and Test Folders in the sort order and hierarchy that suits our work practices and helps optimize productivity. The behavior introduced in SpiraTeam v5 destroys the logical order of our artifacts, sorts them alphanumerically by Name, and prohibits us from specifying the sort order unless we do so by using a naming convention for the artifacts. To preserve our customized sort order, we would have to rename thousands of artifacts by using a naming convention that would exploit the alphanumerical sorting. Anyone who has tried to do this in Windows Explorer knows that the naming process becomes cumbersome as you continue to add, move, and delete folders and files. I read the Inflectra article Why Did We Change How Folders Work?, and the article states that The new folders...are in the same place in the folder tree. I disagree. In the v5 folder system, our folders are no longer in the places we put them in the tree for the last eight years; their positions have changed and there is now a Root folder that never previously existed in our tree. Likewise, the Test Cases in v5.3 are not in the positions we placed them for the last eight years. I recognise the value in many of the changes from v4.2 to v5, but the changes didnt need to be made at the expense of Users being able to customize the sort order of Test Folders and Test Cases. It is interesting that the Inflectra article also says that the folders In a lot of ways now behave just like Windows Explorer (the v4.2 Help says The structure is very similar to the folder structure in Microsoft Windows Explorer). It is interesting because Microsoft displeased many Users by removing the functionality that enabled Users to manually arrange folders and files in Windows Explorer. Microsoft removed the options to disable Auto Arrange, Align to grid and Auto Sort in Windows Explorer, and that resulted in Users complaining about the removals, petitioning for their reinstatement, and creating a registry hack to reinstate the options. Such changes displease customers because of the effect on customers customizations. A tenet of software upgrades is that they should not delete customers customizations that the software previously allowed, but this is what SpiraTeam v5 does. I liken the effect of the v5 folder system on our artifacts to someone else rearranging the Transitions in customised Workflows to occur in alphanumeric order by Name instead of the logical order that the User created. An upgrade that deletes customers customisations is likely to result in disenchanted customers. Our agency is fortunate in that we have the on-premise SpiraTeam so we can test before we upgrade. From what Ive read in the SpiraTeam Support Forums, Users of the Cloud version of SpiraTeam have had their customized sort order of Test Folders and Test Cases undone without knowing that it would happen. At least our agency can choose to remain on v4.2 and keep eight years of customizations. I am grateful to Inflectra for this forum and their willingness to consider feedback from customers. Maybe other customers will add their comments to this thread. Maybe we can convince Inflectra to reinstate the functionality in SpiraTeam for customizing the sort order of Test Folders and Test Cases. Dan Thu, 30 Nov 2017 05:25:57 -05002018-05-15T15:03:24-04:00/Support/Forum/spirateam/issues-questions/1778.aspxmessageId=3168Jim R (donotreply5@kronodesk.net) Hi Dan Thanks for the feedback, I have passed it on. Regards Jim Hi Dan Thanks for the feedback, I have passed it on. Regards Jim Thu, 30 Nov 2017 16:15:35 -05002017-11-30T16:15:35-05:00/Support/Forum/spirateam/issues-questions/1778.aspx#reply3168messageId=3282Szigeti Andrea (szigetia@mnb.hu) HI Support Team, We have the same problem. That is the reason why we hasnt upgraded our HI Support Team, We have the same problem. That is the reason why we hasnt upgraded our Spira from 4.1 to 5.x till now. We would like to use the new features from version 5.x, so we need to upgrade our Spira soon. Do you can suggest a good practice how we can migrate our date, that we dont lose the Test Folders and test cases hierarchy. I think, there is a problem to use serial number to put in right order the test cases, because it doesnt support to change the test case order or to insert new records. Regards, Andrea Tue, 15 May 2018 15:03:24 -04002018-05-15T15:03:24-04:00/Support/Forum/spirateam/issues-questions/1778.aspx#reply3282